Curse

Solange · Jan 06, 2008, 09:55 AM // 09:55

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Originally Posted by Agent Mold3r

anyway, why are you asking us? what are we supposed to do about it?

I don't know its a suggestion, people talk about it maybe Gaile sees it and goes hrmm i'll bring this up in the next Guild Wars meeting

This is a guild wars forum people talk about Guild Wars....i'm talking about Guild Wars right now

Agent Mold3r · Jan 06, 2008, 10:00 AM // 10:00

w/e worst idea i've ever seen/read in my entire life. Good Night.

Siirius Black · Jan 06, 2008, 10:14 AM // 10:14

This tread should be closed. Most games on steam are offered as a resale. You download the game and play it. GW already does that. You downloadthe game directly from them. And most imortant, the already have the infrastructure to play it.

Dont get me wrong. I like steam. I have it since HL1.
But I dont see GW or GW2 in Steam at all.

RedStar · Jan 06, 2008, 10:15 AM // 10:15

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Originally Posted by Solange

i hope you die in a fire in rl

Stop flamming or the only thing you'll get is this thread closed.

On-topic : can steam really host GW ?

Solange · Jan 06, 2008, 10:19 AM // 10:19

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Originally Posted by Siirius Black

This tread should be closed. Most games on steam are offered as a resale. You download the game and play it. GW already does that. You downloadthe game directly from them. And most imortant, the already have the infrastructure to play it.

Dont get me wrong. I like steam. I have it since HL1.
But I dont see GW or GW2 in Steam at all.

List of RPG's on steam http://www.steampowered.com/v/index....&genre=3&cc=CA

Arx Fatalis
Arkane Studios 77 $9.95
BioShock™
2K Boston, 2K Australia 95 $49.95
Dark Messiah Might and Magic™
Arkane Studios 72 $19.95
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
Funcom 75 $19.95
Jade Empire™: Special Edition
BioWare Corporation 81 $39.95
Loki
Cyanide 61 $39.95
Overlord™
Triumph Studios 81 $39.95
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl
GSC Game World 82 $29.95
Sherlock Holmes - The Awakened
Frogwares 72 $29.95
Sid Meier's Pirates!
Firaxis Games 88 $29.95
Silverfall
Monte Cristo 62 $39.95
SpaceForce™ Rogue Universe
Provox Games 62 $29.95
The Longest Journey
Funcom 91 $9.95
The Ship
Outerlight Ltd. 76 $14.95
The Ship Single Player
Outerlight Ltd. 76 $9.95
Titan Quest
Iron Lore Entertainment 77 $19.95
Titan Quest - Immortal Throne
Iron Lore Entertainment 80 $19.95
Two Worlds
Reality Pump 66 $39.95
UFO: Afterlight
ALTAR Games 71 $29.95
Vigil - Blood Bitterness™
Freegamer 61 $9.95

Agent Mold3r · Jan 06, 2008, 10:21 AM // 10:21

almost none of those are online.....

Sleeper Service · Jan 06, 2008, 10:23 AM // 10:23

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Originally Posted by RedStar

Stop flamming or the only thing you'll get is this thread closed.

On-topic : can steam really host GW ?

yes, it can host any program.

barring the teething problems it had back in...05? long time ago now, its a pretty nifty utility.

Solange · Jan 06, 2008, 10:23 AM // 10:23

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Originally Posted by Agent Mold3r

almost none of those are online.....

if by none you mean half of them have multi-player then yes you are right

Redfeather1975 · Jan 06, 2008, 10:27 AM // 10:27

I wonder if in the very distant future when GW servers are closed if it would be possible to play GW on private servers using something like Steam.
Say in the future, people stop playing Guild Wars except for a few hundred.
Anet decides to close the servers.
The people out there who have been working on figuring out playing GW on private servers, get permission to go ahead and do that. Then you get private servers with different rulesets popping up and suddenly GW has a retro cult status going.
It could happen. In fact I am going to predict it will in 7-10 years.

SaucE · Jan 06, 2008, 10:34 AM // 10:34

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Originally Posted by Solange

why would they lose money, i don't understand that part?

Do you really think Valve would allow them to continue the in-game store if they started offering GW through Steam. They would lose money because any purchases that would be made through the in-game store, parts of the money would have to go to Valve. Keeping things they way they are now, all money made through the in-game store goes directly to NC Soft/A-net. They wouldn't lose off of retail sales though, just in-game purchases.

Sleeper Service · Jan 06, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by SaucE

Do you really think Valve would allow them to continue the in-game store if they started offering GW through Steam. They would lose money because any purchases that would be made through the in-game store, parts of the money would have to go to Valve. Keeping things they way they are now, all money made through the in-game store goes directly to NC Soft/A-net. They wouldn't lose off of retail sales though, just in-game purchases.

what?

no wrong.

the support and product remains Anets/Ncsoft. the ingame store remains Anet/ncsoft.

It just an added distributor thats all...

Turbobusa · Jan 06, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

What is steam? never used such a thing, call me noob if you like.

SaucE · Jan 06, 2008, 10:42 AM // 10:42

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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service

what?

no wrong.

the support and product remains Anets/Ncsoft. the ingame store remains Anet/ncsoft.

It just an added distributor thats all...

You don't know Valve very well...

Sleeper Service · Jan 06, 2008, 10:44 AM // 10:44

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Originally Posted by SaucE

You don't know Valve very well...

im sorry where are you getting this info from? on what are you basing this.

personal gut feeling?

I know valve and the Steam system well enough.

SaucE · Jan 06, 2008, 10:49 AM // 10:49

I have been using Steam since day 1. Valve will only do something if it benefits them. If they are going to make less money by not making anything off the GW in-games store, then they won't support the game through Steam.

Sleeper Service · Jan 06, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by SaucE

I have been using Steam since day 1. Valve will only do something if it benefits them. If they are going to make less money by not making anything off the GW in-games store, then they won't support the game through Steam.

you...dont know what we are talking about.

Valve/Steam is not going to be running GW. they will just be DISTRIBUTING and promoting it through Steam.

following your train of thought we could never buy any game (product for that matter) from a RL shop.

Why do you think they overcharge? how come they are not responsible for support? You think that because something is on steam that it belongs to Valve? wrong.

They just sell it, give them a sub-forum and give the developers access to their update method. thats all.

Its up to the original developers to work it from there, they support tthe product, they patch it, they mod the sub-forums (usually in the form of "come to our website we can help you there better").

you would KNOW all this if you had been using steam from "day 1" and not just playing CS?

Lykan · Jan 06, 2008, 11:06 AM // 11:06

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Originally Posted by Turbobusa

What is steam? never used such a thing, call me noob if you like.

steam is great srsly

SaucE · Jan 06, 2008, 11:10 AM // 11:10

I have purchased many games through Steam, its a great way to purchase games. I know they wouldn't be running the game, the only ones they run are the ones they developed. To my knowledge, none of the games currently on Steam have something build into the game that would allow the games maker to make money that Valve wouldn't benefit from. I just don't ever see Valve/Steam offering a game where the developer is going to make more money on the side that they won't get a cut from.

Sleeper Service · Jan 06, 2008, 11:12 AM // 11:12

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Originally Posted by Turbobusa

What is steam? never used such a thing, call me noob if you like.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(content_delivery)

"Steam is a digital distribution, digital rights management, multiplayer and communications platform developed by Valve Corporation. It is used to digitally distribute and manage games ranging from first-person shooters and RPGs to racing games and cross-genre independent titles. Among its clients are Take-Two Interactive, Eidos Interactive, Introversion Software, Strategy First, PopCap Games, Capcom, id Software, THQ and Rockstar Games.[2][3][4][5][6][7] As of September 2, 2007 over 200 PC games are available on Steam, and there are approximately 13 million active users.[8]"

@ Sauce:

uh, ok.

Sirius-NZ · Jan 06, 2008, 11:41 AM // 11:41

What would be the point of having GW on Steam? I don't see any advantages over the in-game store.